Eurasia | Eastasia

Oct. 5th, 2005

  • 5:25 AM
lu: (Book)
"I have a feeling that you're riding for some kind of a terrible, terrible fall. But I don't honestly know what kind... It may be the kind where, at the age of thirty, you sit in some bar hating everybody who comes in looking as if he might have played football in college. Then again, you may pick up just enough education to hate people who say, 'It's a secret between he and I.' Or you may end up in some business office, throwing paper clips at the nearest stenographer. I just don't know.

This fall I think you're riding for - it's a special kind of fall, a horrible kind. The man falling isn't permitted to feel or hear himself hit bottom. He just keeps falling and falling. The whole arrangement's designed for men who, at some time or other in their lives, were looking for something their own environment couldn't supply them with. Or they thought their own environment couldn't supply them with. So they gave up looking. They gave it up before they ever really even got started.

I think that one of these days, you're going to have to find out where do you want to go. And then you've got to start going there. But immediately. You can't afford to lose a minute. Not you.

And I hate to tell you, but I think that once you a fair idea where you want to go, your first move will be to apply yourself in school. You'll have to. You're a student - whether the idea appeals to you or not. You're in love with knowledge. And I think you'll find, once you get past all the Mr. Vineses and their Oral Comp - all right - the Mr. Vinsons. Once you get past all the Mr. Vinsons, you're going to start getting closer and closer - that is, if you want to, and if you look for it and wait for it - to the kind of information that will be very, very dear to your heart.

Among other things, you'll find that you're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior. You're by no means alone on that score, you'll be excited and stimulated to know. Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them - if you want to. Just as someday, if you have something to offer, someone will learn something from you. It's a beautiful reciprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry.

I'm not trying to tell you that only educated and scholarly men are able to contribute something valuable to the world. It's not so. But I do say that educated and scholarly men, if they're brilliant and creative to begin with - which, unfortunately is rarely the case- tend to leave infinitely more valuable records behind them than men who are merely brilliant and creative. They tend to express themselves more clearly and they usually have a passion for following their thoughts through to the end. And- most important- nine times out of ten they have more humility than the unscholarly thinker.

Something else an academic education will do for you. If you go along with it any considerable distance, it'll begin to five you an idea what size mind you have. What it'll find and, maybe, what it won't. After a while, you'll have an idea what kind of thoughts your particular size mind should be wearing. For one thing, it may save you an extraordinary amount of time trying on ideas that don't suit you, aren't becoming to you. You'll begin to know your true measurements and dress your mind accordingly." - J. D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye.

Couldn't think of a better moment to read it.

Or is it the other way around?

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christycorr: Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon) (Default)
[personal profile] christycorr wrote:
Oct. 5th, 2005 02:48 pm (UTC)
It may very well be the other way around.

Either way... you read it. Hope it was worth it. ^^'

*sigh* Here, have some soma. xD
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 5th, 2005 09:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, I know. Well, it's done, now. It's not like I was going to stop reading because of that. *dies*

It was very much worth it, aye. Such a good book. You must finish.

Wow. That's some pretty fucked up math. 6x9=42
christycorr: Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon) (Default)
[personal profile] christycorr wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 02:53 am (UTC)
*laughs* Of course not.

I willll. And you must read Mort! \o/

... I've never felt most misunderstood than I was right now. Continue reading Brave New World, plzkthx.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 08:54 am (UTC)
That was so low I'm not even going to comment.

...

Great. I'm curious now. ¬¬
christycorr: Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon) (Default)
[personal profile] christycorr wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 06:53 pm (UTC)
Hee.

...

Now you know! \o/
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 11:24 pm (UTC)
Yay! I do!

I need some of that. xD
[identity profile] paradoxo-mental.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)
And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry.
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Sabe... não é porque é comum que os teus problemas são menos importantes ^^ E já percebi que no próximo ano você não vai deixar de se incomodar com isso, e nós também não vamos cansar de tentar te acalmar xD

Tenho outras coisas pra dizer, mas vou esperar a próxima vez que você tiver uma crise *roll* mwHEUHEUIHeuw
x)

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[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 06:19 pm (UTC)
Cara, eu não quero nem pensar no meu estado de espírito no ano que vem. Vai ser ridículo. --'

Hum. Fiquei curiosa agora. xD

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[identity profile] paradoxo-mental.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
heuhaEUheui
bem.. .se eu falar agora, não vou ter o que falar em momentos críticos x_X heuheu
se bem que sempre há a chance de eu esquecer... acho que vou escrever ^^

você vai precisar de pauladas pra entender, cara xD

boa sorte ^^
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2005 12:00 am (UTC)
Bom, isso é verdade. xD

HEY. Não me bata. ¬¬
[identity profile] paradoxo-mental.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2005 12:28 am (UTC)
eu não bato ^^
a não ser que você mereça _ _"
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2005 12:08 am (UTC)
I read that. Long time ago, when I was your age. A troubled kid, that had no idea what to do with her own life. And she made a choice - few choices, just to realize she choose too soon.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2005 12:22 am (UTC)
Well, don't we all choose too soon?
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2005 12:29 am (UTC)
Oh, by the way.

It's polite to identify yourself, you know?
darkwater: (Default)
[personal profile] darkwater wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:05 pm (UTC)
Hello. This is me saying hello via [livejournal.com profile] christycorr and her latest post.

Anyway... I haven't much to say, except that I found something out about Christy [via her post] that I didn't know and all I can say is wa-hey!

Good for her, good for you and oh... I have nothing much else to say.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, she told me to keep an eye for you. *grins*

Hi! o/

Oh, you didn't know? God, how can you people not see the obvious? *laughs*

I hear you're English? *in love with your country thankyouverymuch*

darkwater: (Default)
[personal profile] darkwater wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:41 pm (UTC)
Lol...

Oh, you didn't know? God, how can you people not see the obvious? *laughs*

Problem is I have so many bi/gay friends that I don't assume anything really and I don't talk to Christy heaps so I guess I just missed it... Still grinning though. I love gay people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[P.S. I love girls schools as well but please don't let the staff know.]

Yes, English. Not loving my country muchly. Love most of it but don't love the politics and the government that might as well just blow up. Tony Bliar... Sorry Blair [Liar *guffaw*] is a... well it's to be censored.

His latest policy is that "problem" families shall be locked up in "ghettos" against their will and have all their houses taken and if they don't change then their children will be taken from them. Not too pleased about his hitler-esque views at the moment.

Sorry about the rant. I go off at tangents.

Nice to meet you.

XD!
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:49 pm (UTC)
Oh, I have so many of them that nowadays I just assumed that they're not straight. *laughs*

[Oh, don't worry, I won't. Me too.]

Oh, my country's politics is a pretty fucked up moment right now, too. Our president almost had to renounce.

I've been to England in January and fell in love over and over again with London and Oxford. Where are you from, may I ask?

Nice to meet you, too! xD
darkwater: (Default)
[personal profile] darkwater wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
Bush and Blair should just go buy an island and go live there.

And your president too if you like.

Or we could just go dump them in space -- heeee...

I'm technically from Greater London, from a town called Bushey near Watford. Basically from Greater London. Only about 30 mins from Central London by car or train.

P.S. Much as I lack the ability to be good at any language apart from this tongue, I love your language. I reckon if I stare at it long enough I might get an epiphany. German and French and Latin disagreed with me at school. I'm awkward, I have Irish Gaelic, Japanese and Welsh on my 'to learn' list. Ha!

[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 09:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, they should just fuck each other to death. At least, they wouldn't fuck other people's lives. Maybe a threesome?

When I went to London I stayed in Picadilly. God, it was so good. Ever been to Oxford?

Ps: I love a lot of languages as well. Am currently learninhg French. I wish I knew German and Latin, too. Actually, I wish I had them at school. But, when I was learning French back then I hated it, too. Maybe it's a school thing. Gaelic? What, from Gaul? If you hang around here once in a while you'll be able to read a lot of Portuguese. o/
darkwater: (Default)
[personal profile] darkwater wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 09:19 pm (UTC)
Oxford no.

Irish Gaelic is from Ireland and Scottish Gaelic is from Scotland.
I have to go now. My dad is glaring at me 'cos I should be in bed. So night night and I'm sure I'll talk to you another time.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 09:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, you should. So, so, so, so good.

It's ok. I'll friend you, is that ok? Do show up. o/
darkwater: (Default)
[personal profile] darkwater wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 08:57 pm (UTC)
I keep forgetting to change my icon. I wanted to use this one 'cos it is the epitome of cool.

YAY for animated Robin Hood.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2005 09:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, I heart icons. *points*

Yay for Disney!

You like bowling, don't you, Montag?

If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none. If the government is inefficient, topheavy, and tax-mad, better it be all those than that people worry over it. Peace, Montag. Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of noncombustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they'll feel like they're thinking, they'll get a sense of motion without moving. And they'll be happy, because facts of that sort don't change. Don't give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy.

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