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The L WorLd: outing a Brazilian girl.

  • Nov. 18th, 2006 at 2:28 PM
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I have recently -- and you are probably going to laugh after reading this -- admitted to myself that I am a lesbian. Before, I used to say I was bisexual, or even a five in the Kinsey Scale. One way or the other, I never thought of myself as "gay". I guess the term was a bit too strong for me, and I couldn't really deal with the notion.

Fact is, I prefer girls a thousand times over boys, and there are very few boys indeed to whom I feel attracted. Yet, I think it was only after I've started watching The L Word that I really began to identify myself as a lesbian -- despite the fact that my friends had been doing so for a long time.

During the second half of 2006, I have started taking greatest interest in the subject than I had in the past: I've looked for movies, series, sites, LJ communities, and bought an amazing book -- Reading The L Word: Outing Contemporary Television -- in which various lesbian writers and columnists discuss the issue of representation, heteronormativity, sex and general behaviour of the characters in the said TV show.

The reason I've decided to make this post in the first place was to give you, my dear readers, some recent news on the lesbian world, and also some tips of what to watch.



Ellen DeGeneres will host the 79th Annual Academy Awards.

Even though the news have been going around for a while now, it was only in the past weeks that I've read about this. For those of you who don't know, Ellen DeGeneres is considered a major symbol in the lesbian community: she was one of the first actresses to openly come out, and, back in 1994, had TV show, Ellen, in which she played a lesbian. The series was canceled after four seasons. Looks like viewers ended up seeing more than they payed for.

The actress is so huge in the dyke world, that one of the biggest sites about lesbian representation on TV is named after her (Afterellen.com), as if her coming out was a mark in the history of gay TV (which it, in fact, was).

She was also in If These Walls Could Talk 2 -- an excellent gay movie that tells three short stories about lesbians -- in which her character, Kal, is in a long-term relationship with Fran (portrayed by Sharon Stone) and they're trying to make a baby.

Nowadays, Ellen hosts her own talk show, The Ellen DeGeneres Show, which is aired for a whole hour, five days a week, and has snatched many Emmys, including "Outstanding Talk Show" and "Outstanding Talk Show Host".

A little trivia: the actress plays Dory, in Finding Nemo.

Source: Oscars.org


Ana Lucia is, after all, a lesbian.

Well, at least in real life. Kristanna Loken, an actress who recently outed herself as bisexual (and will be a guest star in The L Word's upcoming season), implicitly declared that she and Lost's Michelle Rodrigez -- co-stars in BloodRayne -- started going out during the shooting. Though the declaration is ambiguous, pictures and the way things were said seems to leave no doubt when it comes to the American media.

I thought this piece of news ironic, in the least. People were complaining about the lack of gays in Lost, and much was said about Ana Lucia's sexual orientation. Actually, I would start thinking J.J. Abrams has something against gay people -- since in Alias no one is really queer, either -- were it not for his affair with Greg Grunberg, a.k.a. Weiss (this actor worked in every single thing Abrams ever shot. Don't tell me they haven't shagged).

On a side note, talking about lesbian actresses, I've read that Sex and the City's Miranda (Cynthia Nixon) came out. Of course, during the series she always emanated that "lesbian vibe", but I guess seeing her with Steve just made me believe she was straight. Oh, well.

Source: afterellen.com


Exes and Oh's.

Apparently, after the L Word's wave, new gay series will start coming out. Exes and Oh's, a half-hour comedy series about a group of lesbian friends, will make its début in 2007. The show was based on a an excellent short-film entitled The Ten Rules: a Lesbian Survival Guide, which is available on YouTube, and really is worth seeing. The first part can be watched below:

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The other three parts are linked, respectively, here, here and here.

Source: afterellen.com


The everlasting Jodie Foster dicussion.

I had no idea people suspected Jodie Foster was gay. Apparently, that is a big polemic issue between American lesbians. The question is not really whether she's gay or not -- there seems to be a general consensus that Cydney Bernard is her life partner, and not just a good friend -- but whether she should uncloset herself. I've recently read a very good column, by Kim Ficerain which the matter is discussed:

"Half of the women in the room will defend Jodie's decision to keep her personal life as private as she can. Perhaps each of the women on that side of the argument enjoys a somewhat “private” life (read: closeted life) of her own; perhaps each simply respects Jodie's choice on a professional level. Lord knows that out Hollywood actresses don’t get the work that closeted actresses do. (...)

The other half will, like Westenhoefer, argue that Jodie should come out of the closet because of what she could do for the lesbian and gay community. Jodie's clout, the respect she commands, her charming personality and warm, soft-spoken manner, they believe, will help make the world a more welcoming place for lesbians. These folks are likely out themselves and want some very famous company. Or, perhaps their desire is more selfish. Maybe they think they’re owed something in return for supporting Jodie over the years. Maybe, just maybe, they simply want to be right."


I guess we'll have to wait and see what Foster will do. Lately she has been more open about the matter, even though the words "I'm a lesbian" never came out of her mouth.

Source: afterellen.com

The more I read, research and watch, the more I know that I don't really know much about this so-called "L World", and the more I want to read, research and watch. Looks like I've found another subject to obsess about and I'd say it might actually stick for a while. After all, this is not a brilliant series, or an amazing book; this is linked to my very own identity as an individual.

Comments

[identity profile] firstlightofeos.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2006 06:11 pm (UTC)
*smirks* One word: Dork.

No, but really, I'm glad you've started getting into this. It's good for you, I think.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
*laughs* This is a really dorky post, that is true. I had been a while since I had written anything this big and with so many links and information and all. Lesbian dork and proud of it. *grins*

I think it's good for me, too. Something really important for me to grow and mature in this way.
[identity profile] crystal-queer.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 12:07 am (UTC)
:GLOMP: Lesbian dork II: Electric Bugaloo.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:15 am (UTC)
*laughs* Yay for us.

But I'm not sure I am a good enough leabian dork, for I didn't get the Electric Bugaloo reference. Maybe it's something to with the fact I'm not American? *frowns* Care to explain?
[identity profile] vivisparrow.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2006 08:57 pm (UTC)
Knowing you as I do, I have no doubt that you've always prefer girls than boys. :) Almost like; Boys? ARGH! girls? YEEAH BABY!!!
It's your identity, which is beautiful and I love!!!!!!!!!!!
Big tits are better than large sticks, right? :P
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:16 am (UTC)
*laughs* YAY for girls.

Oh, definitely. Large tits are the world. Like yours and all. *grins*

You know, you really should've learned how to be a lesbian. Damnit.
[identity profile] vivisparrow.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 01:22 pm (UTC)
hahahhhahahaahh :)
I miss going out with you and the girls...
We used to have fun, right? :***
Life is such a bitch..
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 02:06 pm (UTC)
Oh, I miss it, too. You should go out with us anytime. I'll give you a call whenever we meet again, see if you can make it. =***
[identity profile] vivisparrow.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2006 12:34 pm (UTC)
I'll appreciate it!
:*******
[identity profile] dianaprallon.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 18th, 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
That made me remember the 1st ep of season 2 of House, when he shows Cameron the phases people go through when they find out they will die.

I think it fits in many other points of our lifes, and, finally you reached acceptance. I'm so proud of you \o/

love ya baby!
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_annabel_lee/ wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 02:05 am (UTC)
Quais são as outras fases?
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:17 am (UTC)
Oh, yeah, totally. I love that theory. And it's absolutely applied here.

Love you. =*
[identity profile] hey-lani.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
I really love Ellen DeGeneres and her talk show. But, if you've ever seen her show, she tries to act so straight and it really annoys me. And I understand why and all (because it's like a daytime talk show, and the lesbian references might scare the old ladies who watch the show...) But, I really wish she would acknowledge her sexuality on the show. I guess she also does it for ratings, if her sexuality was more open on the show she might lose viewers, which is sad.

Enough of my Ellen rambling! And I've also never understood that whole Jodie Foster issue either...

I'm going to watch that survival guide now...
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:44 am (UTC)
No, I have never seen it. I'm not sure it is aired around here, but, yes, I have read about it, and about this whole "playing straight" thing. I guess that after Ellen had two of her shows cancelled she's trying to be more prudent, and I understand.

Oh! Let me know what you thought of the Survivel Guide. I thought it was downright hilarious!
[identity profile] hey-lani.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 06:03 am (UTC)
hahaha! yes, it was great. I loved the diagram.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
*laughs* The diagram is amazing. Reminds me of The Chart. Worst is, it is totally true. I love the "lesbian years = dog years" kind of thing.
[identity profile] hey-lani.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 01:16 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't say 'Worst is, it is totally true'

It's not really a bad thing that it's true, right? Because otherwise there would be no rules :P But hang on...maybe no rules is a good thing?
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 02:05 pm (UTC)
*laughs* I didn't mean it in a bad way. I think I've translated a way of saying that in Portuguese to English and it sounded weird.

No, no, but I loved it. I like the rules. Even though, like rules, there are always cases that don't apply. Anyway, it's a brilliant short-film.
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_annabel_lee/ wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 02:04 am (UTC)
Depois eu vou ler as notícias e comentá-las *curiosa sobre o documentário*, mas só pra dizer: "despite the fact that my friends had been doing so for a long time"... É, POIS É!
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:40 am (UTC)
Leia sim! E me diga o que achou do documentário!

Ah, esses meus amigos são mais inteligentes do que eu. xD
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_annabel_lee/ wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 05:34 pm (UTC)
Muuuuito mais. xD
[identity profile] queenofbabble.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 10:47 am (UTC)
Eu teria ataques histéricos de alegria se o Greg Grunberg fosse gay. Seria o Natal chegando mais cedo.

Eu fiquei apaixonada por ele desde que comecei a assistir Heroes!

Sobre a Cynthia Nixon, o que eu sei é que ela aparentemente teve um caso com uma mulher há muito tempo atrás, mas não admitia nada publicamente. Só dizia que era muito feliz com sua vida e suas escolhas.

Eu queria gostar da Michelle Rodriguez, mas a Ana Lucifer me faz ter péssimas recordações da mesma (de qualquer modo, eu já havia visto umas fotos da Michelle numa discoteca beijando mulheres).

E por fim, tem uma série inglesa ao estilo de Buffy que se eu não me engano se chama Hex. Ela durou umas duas temporadas, mas era completo de fantasmas lésbicas entre outras coisas.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2006 01:09 pm (UTC)
O Greg Grunberg está em tudo que o J.J. Abrams faz, é absurdo (não sei se você reparou que ele é o piloto de Lost)! Deve ser tipo o Tim Burto e o Danny Elfman, sabe? Mas eu não tinha idéia que ele estava em Heroes!

A Cynthia Nixon recentemente saiu do armário, e foi colocada naquele pedestal de atrizes abertamente lésbicas que a sociedade gay cria. o/

Eu também não consigo gostar da Ana Lucia, sério. Acho que eu simpatizei um pouco com ela no final da segunda, mas no começo ela estava insuportável. Mas até o segundo flashback dela, muita gente cogitava a possibilidade dela ser lésbica. Esses gays, viu? Vêem arco-íris em tudo. Se bem que não é por nada não, Lost tem grupos que representam todas as minorias, menos os gays. x_X

Nunca ouvi falar de Hex. Mas eu sei que Buffy é, tipo, um ícone entre as lésbicas também, por causa da história da Willow e da Tara. *_*
[identity profile] discreetly.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC)
Convenhamos. Imaginar vc com um cara é algo IMPOSSÍVEL de sequer imaginar... xP
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2006 04:49 pm (UTC)
Olha que nem eu consigo imaginar. xD

Caras são tão estranhos.
[identity profile] fly-meaway.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2006 03:31 pm (UTC)
That was some interesting reading. Very interesting reading and I had no idea about Michelle! lol. I never really thought about Jodie like that either, but then again, I don't know that much about actors/actresses these days, at least not the 'hot/popular' people that often are in magazines. So yeah, I never thought of that.

And also. yay for Ellen hosting the Academy awards. She is awesome and yeah, I would love to see what she can do at the award show (and btw I love her show!).

But yeah, interesting read and I never thought that you didn't see yourself as a lesbian until now. I guess I just never got any impression from you at all that you considered yourself bi. But it's good to hear that you can admit it to yourself now.
[identity profile] nancy-downs.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2006 04:53 pm (UTC)
Oh, I had always suspected that about Michelle, but, really, I was rather shocked, as well. I don't really follow news about actresses/actors, too, but like I said, I've been reading a lot on the subject of lesbians.

Oh, I like Ellen, too. I won't miss these Oscars! I mean... she's such a good comedian.

Well, I started telling people I was a lesbian this year, but sometimes I'd tell them I was bisexual so that they wouldn't bug me if I kissed a guy. But... I guess I only really meant it after July or so. I don't like the idea of completely rulling out guys yet -- I like to keep my options open. But, yeah, I am a lesbian.

I'm glad you liked the post. =)

You like bowling, don't you, Montag?

If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none. If the government is inefficient, topheavy, and tax-mad, better it be all those than that people worry over it. Peace, Montag. Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of noncombustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they'll feel like they're thinking, they'll get a sense of motion without moving. And they'll be happy, because facts of that sort don't change. Don't give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy.

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